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Wilders is a destructive element in Dutch society.
Either the State safeguards internal security regarding social cohesion or it doesn't.
The 'ruling' coalition can't keep its head in the sand forever...
'Wilders is a racist...his comments are not aimed at a race'
Oh pleeease!! What a bunch of retards!
And, by the way, there is no social cohesion. That's self-deception.What there really is for anyone with the courage and honesty to look are two parallel societies, Non-Muslim and Muslim...and this rift, indeed abyss, is created by and constantly widened not by Wilders ( that's just silly Leftist propaganda) but by Islamic supremacism and separatism.
It is very frightening to think that foreign politicians who exist outside of the Dutch government's jurisdiction could successfully have Geert Wilders tried, convicted, and imprisoned for making a movie that offends them.
Just as frightening is that it is almost a certainty that Wilders will face criminal charges brought forth from non-muslim Dutch government officials.
Has anyone ever wondered why Western liberal elites who eschew closemindedness from white people or minority conservatives, but embrace it when it is being espoused by muslims?
Some how, the Left has taken over Europe, and for some reason that defies reason itself, it is fueling the vehicle for its own destruction.
They want to imprison Wilders for saying that islam commands muslims to wage war on non-muslims.
Yet, they call it free speech when a muslim says the exact same thing and encourages other muslims to do so.
Why?
What Wilders has said about the Koran may or may not be true, but his mistake is to focus solely on the Koran. The Christian Bible (particularly the Old Testament) is of at least equally dubious morality, describing as it does a vengeful God, child sacrifice, blatant racism and sexism, and a host of other niceties that hardly conform to the average Christian's modern aspirations. It is not Islam that is the problem. It is religion in any form. The sooner we accept that reality, the sooner we can heal the divisions that religion has caused for millennia.
What a theologically naive remark by Ken. This is same old moral equivalence charge (i.e. Islam and Christianity are the same which is nonsense). The Old Testament has specific injunctions to war for specific people at a specific time this is not transferred into the New Testament teaching which gives the injunction to love your enemies. Hence, this is why one does not find Christians today beheading people yelling praise to Jesus like you do in Islam (beheading yelling Allah Akbar). Moreover, Wilders could repudiate Christianity and there would be little response, but if he criticizes Islam by showing it is not a religion of peace, his life will be threatened (what a deadly irony). Ian
The sad fact is that if a racist like Wilders does release this movie,he will be proven right by a certain portion of Muslims.What does that tell you?
Yes there is a rift but Mr. Wilders and Co. are not helping matters.
They want to ban Wilders and put in jail... That wouldn't be a new idea in EU to attack a thought and in turn create Thought Police state. At the end of World War II on the border of German there was once a sign "End of Civilization" should I consider such a sign on a border crossing to EU. Very interesting... Let's see what develops next...
Wilders is a destructive element in Dutch society.
Either the State safeguards internal security regarding social cohesion or it doesn't.
The 'ruling' coalition can't keep its head in the sand forever...
'Wilders is a racist...his comments are not aimed at a race'
Oh pleeease!! What a bunch of retards!
And, by the way, there is no social cohesion. That's self-deception.What there really is for anyone with the courage and honesty to look are two parallel societies, Non-Muslim and Muslim...and this rift, indeed abyss, is created by and constantly widened not by Wilders ( that's just silly Leftist propaganda) but by Islamic supremacism and separatism.
It is very frightening to think that foreign politicians who exist outside of the Dutch government's jurisdiction could successfully have Geert Wilders tried, convicted, and imprisoned for making a movie that offends them.
Just as frightening is that it is almost a certainty that Wilders will face criminal charges brought forth from non-muslim Dutch government officials.
Has anyone ever wondered why Western liberal elites who eschew closemindedness from white people or minority conservatives, but embrace it when it is being espoused by muslims?
Some how, the Left has taken over Europe, and for some reason that defies reason itself, it is fueling the vehicle for its own destruction.
They want to imprison Wilders for saying that islam commands muslims to wage war on non-muslims.
Yet, they call it free speech when a muslim says the exact same thing and encourages other muslims to do so.
Why?
What Wilders has said about the Koran may or may not be true, but his mistake is to focus solely on the Koran. The Christian Bible (particularly the Old Testament) is of at least equally dubious morality, describing as it does a vengeful God, child sacrifice, blatant racism and sexism, and a host of other niceties that hardly conform to the average Christian's modern aspirations. It is not Islam that is the problem. It is religion in any form. The sooner we accept that reality, the sooner we can heal the divisions that religion has caused for millennia.
What a theologically naive remark by Ken. This is same old moral equivalence charge (i.e. Islam and Christianity are the same which is nonsense). The Old Testament has specific injunctions to war for specific people at a specific time this is not transferred into the New Testament teaching which gives the injunction to love your enemies. Hence, this is why one does not find Christians today beheading people yelling praise to Jesus like you do in Islam (beheading yelling Allah Akbar). Moreover, Wilders could repudiate Christianity and there would be little response, but if he criticizes Islam by showing it is not a religion of peace, his life will be threatened (what a deadly irony). Ian
The sad fact is that if a racist like Wilders does release this movie,he will be proven right by a certain portion of Muslims.What does that tell you?
Yes there is a rift but Mr. Wilders and Co. are not helping matters.
They want to ban Wilders and put in jail... That wouldn't be a new idea in EU to attack a thought and in turn create Thought Police state. At the end of World War II on the border of German there was once a sign "End of Civilization" should I consider such a sign on a border crossing to EU. Very interesting... Let's see what develops next...
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