Obama descended from Leiden Pilgrim Fathers

6th December 2008, Comments 9 comments

Historical research shows that US President-elect Barack Obama is descended from the Pilgrim Fathers who left the Dutch town of Leiden in 1620 to found the Plymouth colony in Massachusetts.

LEIDEN - Leiden's culture alderman revealed that Mr Obama's ancestors were among those who arrived there from Britain in 1609 seeking religious freedom. 

The nonconformist Puritans lived and worked for eleven years in Amsterdam and Leiden before sailing to America, some of them on the Mayflower. 

Mr Obama is the seventh American president directly descended from Leiden's Pilgrim Fathers.

[Radio Netherlands / Expatica]

9 Comments To This Article

  • stuyvesant posted:

    on 10th December 2008, 01:27:33 - Reply

    @tix: i really don't know how many black people were in Leiden in 1600.
    No how could you know!
    @tix: it's quite unrealistic.
    No it isn't!
    @tix: what has Islam got to do with it?

    take a look at this:

  • tix posted:

    on 9th December 2008, 13:35:17 - Reply

    I was answering "history", it was he who talked about Obama's father in Somalia and in 1600: so the irony was to the date and to the unrealistic of all. And I was reading the news with a bit of longer perspective, being a strange news, what for; considering the issue of Obama and his suspected muslim faith after the tv interview ..
    that's all .
  • Bryna Hellmann posted:

    on 9th December 2008, 00:11:07 - Reply

    Isn't it interesting that some people (all men?) assume the ancestor was a male? As an American with 4 grandparents from Polish shtetls, I can't join the crowd of the millions, and I assume all those other Americans with ancestors from Ireland, Germany, Spain, Mexico, etc etc, won't either. And, finally, so what! The Daughters of the American Revolution still won't let his daughters join.
  • Adrianr posted:

    on 8th December 2008, 22:33:47 - Reply

    Indeed! I imagine that there are millions of people around the world who will have at least one ancestor who was one of the Pilgrim Fathers. It's a little like the theory that within six iterations of contacts, we are all connected to everyone else on the planet. The tree of connections or ancestors expands almost exponentially.
  • c posted:

    on 8th December 2008, 18:39:31 - Reply

    I agree veve. Not to mention the article makes no reference at all to Obama's father but only to his ancestors as descendant from "Leiden's Pilgrim Fathers" - which refers both men and women. Whether this article is correct or not, clearly it is referring to Obama's maternal side.
  • veve posted:

    on 8th December 2008, 18:10:51 - Reply

    I'm surprised none of the other commentors remember that Obama is half Kenyan (not Somalian) and half white American - which is obviously the side that this article refers to. Or maybe I misunderstand and this is sarcasm with a touch of racism?
  • tix posted:

    on 8th December 2008, 16:35:18 - Reply

    So, Obama's father in 1600, reading a newspaper, realized he could have a better religious life in the New World, so took a plane and went to Leiden to be able to go onboard nicely welcomed by the Pilgrim fathers in Rotterdam to sale for America; a piece of cake for a guy in Somalia in 1600 ... I believed Obama was a a bit younger ..
  • historytechdoc posted:

    on 8th December 2008, 15:39:50 - Reply

    The story of why these Puritans left South London to escape the persecution against them during the reign of James I and the reasons why some, but not all, decided to leave for North America and seek as they maintained a 'New Promised Land' are very interesting themselves. And, they parallel the motivation that may have influenced Barack's father in some ways to also leave Somalia for the same Promised Land.
  • tix posted:

    on 8th December 2008, 15:00:47 - Reply

    And how and when did his ancestors moved from Africa to Leiden? it's quite unrealistic, it seems more a tale to show he 's not connected at all to islam: giving a statement his ancestors were puritans ... i really don't know how many black people were in Leiden in 1600 (unless fro a temporary slavery move out) and were puritans!!!