Netherlands wants an ‘orange alert’ for Bulgarians

21st August 2013, Comments 9 comments

In Bulgaria, an open letter addressed by Dutch Social Affairs and Employment Minister, Lodewijk Asscher, and the Director of the British Demos thinktank David Goodhart, warning the European Union against the "negative consequences" of the arrival of workers from central and eastern Europe has been met with amazement.

 Netherlands wants an ‘orange alert’ for Bulgarians
Presa

Presa notes that Asscher's remarks "are reminiscent of his extreme right compatriot Geert Wilders," and cites Bulgarian Minister for Employment, Hassan Ademov, who responded to the letter by announcing that his Dutch colleague was "wrong."

Ademov also pointed out that Bulgaria and the Netherlands "have signed a bilateral agreement [...] that establishes mechanisms for the control of labour markets in both countries, which prohibit the development of the black economy" - one of the fears expressed by Asscher and Goodhart.



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9 Comments To This Article

  • Helena posted:

    on 10th September 2013, 14:56:29 - Reply

    Just to correct a few statements, I found this text from kaapstad magazine,
    http://www.kaapstadmagazine.nl/apartheid-zuid-afrika

    I don't think the Africaner people were the ones to impose apartheid on themselves.

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    Hij was er heilig van overtuigd dat hij door God zelf aan het roer van Zuid-Afrika was gezet, toen hij in 1958 aan de macht kwam: De in AMSTERDAM geboren Hendrik Verwoerd. Met de ‘Promotion of Black Self Government Act’ ontwierp hij een ‘demografisch hoogstandje’ dat onafhankelijke thuislanden voor de Afrikanen ontwierp. Ze zouden hierdoor hun Zuid-Afrikaanse nationaliteit verliezen en de blanken in Zuid-Afrika dus niet in aantal kunnen overtreffen. Met nieuwe thuislanden zouden zwarte arbeiders als immigranten met tijdelijke werkvergunningen in de ZuidAfrikaanse blanke steden werken. Anderen waren veroordeeld tot urenlang woon-werkverkeer in overvolle bussen.
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    And today, the newspapers are showing headlines about Dutch openly lashing out against (legal!!!!) Romanian immigrants. I can't think of any other country with the same kind of fairly recent history, and it includes allowing Wilders in a coalition.

    http://www.presseurop.eu/en/content/news-brief/4129941-almost-no-country-europe-xenophobic-netherlands
  • carrico posted:

    on 31st August 2013, 10:48:15 - Reply

    Nah, you guys got it all wrong. The dude was warning them not to eat the oranges. Where's Monty Python when you need them?
  • pepe posted:

    on 23rd August 2013, 20:33:43 - Reply

    @Noah, are Americans, Australians and Canadians of British descent British? If not, then why are South Africans of Dutch descent Dutch?
  • T.R. posted:

    on 22nd August 2013, 17:42:37 - Reply

    @noah - The Dutch never imposed apartheid on South Africans. Apartheid was introduced in 1948, when the Dutch hadn't had control over South Africa for 142 years. The Dutch also never "invented" the word to describe the regime in South Africa. The word obviously existed long before that, became part of Afrikaans, which is a separate language from Dutch, and *then* was used by its own regime to describe its policy. I must say I find it rather offensive to blame the Dutch for what happened under that regime just because our language contains the same word. And to blame the Dutch for crimes committed by people who (partly) descended from them is, quite simply, racist. I also find the moderator's decision to edit out my rebuke of Ganesh's remark but leave the original remark untouched highly questionable. [Edited by moderator]
  • noah posted:

    on 21st August 2013, 22:16:49 - Reply

    @ T.R.
    I think we should remember that even though UK invented the word 'Holocaust', like France invented 'genocide' (for the horrors in Africa), both of them invented a word to describe what was going on - elsewhere, as in, outside UK and France and without them taking part in it, and that, puts an entire different light on how the Dutch used the word Apartheid.

    When the Dutch came up with the word Apartheid, which they have imposed directly to S-Africans, so they actually were the ones to practice it too. This parallels sounds sensible to me.

    I heard about the 183 days rule- it is an EU directive, and is respected by each country including UK, it is a way to avoid 2 countries fighting over the same salary earned by a worker, and it also avoids both countries taxing the same worker twice for the same salary (this risk remains, unless you can prove your location during 183days). Lots of people don't know tax law, except the really wealthy, of course, like our silver spoon friend Asscher, who decided to bully Bulgarians away just for figuring out 'the way' ;)


  • T.R. posted:

    on 21st August 2013, 16:30:48 - Reply

    yeah I also think Bulgarian workers are to be welcomed. They're cheaper after all so it'll save us money. Although what dmitri posts is interesting. If that's true, then that 183 days rule should be changed. [Edited by moderator]
  • Ganesh posted:

    on 21st August 2013, 13:59:05 - Reply

    I read elsewhere, exPresident UN security Councel already warned for the sickening envy of (some) 'old-western' population:

    http://www.mahbubani.net/ (read 'a Lesson for the West')

    I am not surprised at all, seeing Asscher as an anti 'EU Freedom of Movement' crusader, after all, this is coming from the land that invented the word 'Apartheid', isn't it?
    This guy's family already made millions back in those days when they used..shall we say..other forms of quasi slave labor existed. No wonder he doesn't want the rest of us to make some money too! he likes to keep it all to himself, I guess.

    Well, the expat lot of us WELCOME Bulgarians, because I would love to actually get some service when i go to a hair dresser, or require a plumber. I have had it with the Dutch overcharging me while being rude on top of that, and insisting to work 9-5 when most of us have to be at work myself.



  • blahdeeblah posted:

    on 21st August 2013, 13:17:03 - Reply

    Can't we have an Orange alert (maybe with a picture of Goldmember on TV) when all the Dutch tourists start driving their campers on vacation and crossing the border in huge groups like gnus on the African savannah? I think everyone would appreciate that quite a lot.
  • dmitri posted:

    on 21st August 2013, 12:35:13 - Reply

    Our Netherlands fellow employees and their government are probably very afraid thousands of Bulgarians will come to work in their country WITHOUT ever planning to reside in Netherlands 'forever'. And, yes, they will :)
    They must find it unbearable that we Bulgarians just come to their country for max 6months per year, without registering 'permanently' (which we are NOT legally obligated to do under the Freedom of Movement in EU), and that we therefore will have full entitlement to get all (!!) paid Dutch salary taxes back each year (the '183days rule'), which basically means we work for double the money a Dutch would take back home (cs his home is in Netherlands, and ours is in our low tax beloved country BG) :D
    I think fellow Bulgarians can get any job they want, given that they will accept lower salaries, since they do have this -unbeatable- competitive advantage of getting all Dutch salary tax back :) provided they move back to BG annually.