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Nearly 60% think there are 'too many' eastern Europeans in the Netherlands

30th December 2013, Comments 14 comments

Two-thirds of the Dutch think too many migrants from eastern Europe have moved to the Netherlands, according to research by the government’s think-tank SCP.

In particular, they are concerned about rising crime rates, public nuisance and a squeeze on jobs, broadcaster Nos quotes the SCP as saying.

Almost six out of 10 think eastern Europeans abuse the social security system and 47% think they are taking away jobs from Dutch nationals. Almost half think new arrivals from Poland, Bulgaria and Romania cause problems and are more likely to be criminals.

Benefits

According to the national statistics office CBS, some 600,000 people from other EU countries currently live in the Netherlands and 20,000 of them are claiming jobless or welfare benefits.

In September, social affairs minister Lodewijk Asscher set up a research project to look at claims Dutch people are being squeezed out of jobs by cheaper workers from eastern Europe.

At the same time, half of those questioned for the SCP research think people from eastern Europe are hard workers, particularly Poles. Several employment projects aimed at getting more Dutch jobless into low-skilled jobs such as greenhouse work - where eastern Europeans dominate - have failed.

Romanian and Bulgarian nationals have free movement throughout the European Union from January 1 and many officials worry that tens of thousands of people may move to the Netherlands.

Ambassador

Romania's ambassador to the Netherlands, Ireny Comaroschi, told television current affairs show Buitenhof earlier this month the Netherlands should not be worried that thousands of Romanians and Bulgarians will come to the country.

There are not many Romanians in the country and not many more will come, she said.

Those that will arrive will be highly-qualified people who are willing to integrate into Dutch society, she said.



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14 Comments To This Article

  • Christian posted:

    on 12th January 2014, 19:50:33 - Reply

    @hi,
    It is nothing to do with opening the floodgates.
    Dubai opened floodgates, their government did. No emirati complains. They all have affordable maids from 3rd world countries looking after their kids and elderly: everybody wins.
    The EU including NL's government made the decision to open borders. It could have worked out to everybody's benefit.
    The reason the Dutch are complaining, is because they did a poor job organizing the influx:
    - how come newcomers can just walse in and grab a social house?
    - how come they can just work 3 months, then get fired and become eligible for welfare?
    -how come no one at the tax office checks on whether these newcomers have a legit house rental contract (and thus benefit at least some local who is renting out his house) before allowing him to get his tax number and become eligible for all sorts of (tax/housing/health insurance) benefits??
    Looking at Dubai or even Italy, i see ladies there with girls behind them pushing the wheelchairs of their grand parents. I see smiling faces happy that they won't have to put their loved ones in a Dutch old people's home with 'pijama days'. I see relaxed families, having a cook at home. Nobody is worried, nobody is worried immigrants will take over the 'good jobs' because none of those immigrants accumulates the rights for fast welfare access, nor are they the first to be allowed to be hired by local's employers. They designed it that way. Just like switzerland did in the past.

    This influx ought to have benefited us. It didn't because we have bad rulers.
  • HTD posted:

    on 10th January 2014, 18:24:18 - Reply

    The Dutch government now requires students from other EU countries--not Dutch students--to work 52 hours a month as of 1 January 2014 to qualify for DUO student financing. That's up 62.5% from the former requirement of 32 hours per month in past years including 2013.
    I find this a rather clumsy approach in trying to cut back on the number of foreign students coming to the NL, especially those studying to fill vacancies that are often being left unfilled in high-tech and professional areas.
    Ironically, we find others complaining about these students 'taking their jobs'!
    Are there any adults left in Dutch politics?
  • hi posted:

    on 9th January 2014, 15:25:03 - Reply

    Do not think too deep. Everyone gets a chance here but as in all countries opening the flood gates does not work, only annoys, governments should take it slower..
  • rammy121 posted:

    on 6th January 2014, 10:11:45 - Reply

    @alex...also from me...well put! especially last paragraph. only snag for me, i was getting used to this dutch mentality...but then i went to work for an english company again...bucket of cold water!
  • roscolee posted:

    on 3rd January 2014, 12:07:34 - Reply

    @Alex,well put.
  • Alex posted:

    on 3rd January 2014, 11:33:50 - Reply

    @Gus, the dutch problem is what is called the 'Dutch disease' (read it on wikipedia):
    - dutch work force consists of very few entrepreneurs, and very many employees
    - when a society consists of employees, they tend to move to the communist direction: wanting more employee rights, more vacation time, higher salaries
    - when a society wants higher salaries, they tend to dislike any form of migrants, even if the migrants to the tedious jobs. Because migrants means that there are more employees in total and therefore it means the salaries will be driven downwards - and 'controlled' salaries environment is what the Dutch hate most.
    - when a society consists of more entrepreneurs, you will see that they would welcome migrants, because the entrepreneurs will benefit from less demanding and less costly employees.

    The problem in NL is, a problem that slowly evolved when they transformed the Dutch society in one that is overly dependent on having a nice secure 'employee life', where less competition exist and no sense of urgency to get on doing anything at all to serve the economy.
    Also, I am afraid it will never change, unless they unplug the social welfare out of their security addicted systems. It is basically a communist society where the employees are holding hostage the entire Dutch economy, at the cost of the ones that actually do want to make something out of their lives. Hence the high taxes too.
  • Gus posted:

    on 2nd January 2014, 16:04:11 - Reply

    Just a year ago I got my Dutch passport after 5 years of residency and 2and a half years of integration classes. (I am an American citizen with a Dutch/American daughter). I worked for uitzenburos for my first three years here and did some of the most difficult tedious jobs. I worked with many immigrants. The types of work I did, cleaning, construction, hauling trash, moving bricks and dirt are not kinds of work that many Dutch people want. I heard that they want more Dutch people to work in the flower industry but this job is filled with immigrants because it is so tedious and difficult. Only Dutch students (poorer ones only) do this work in the summer.
    In the United States some think immigrants take jobs but immigrants there mostly do work no one else wants or many immigrants have their own business, like here.

    The Dutch should learn from the American experience, immigrants made America. Immigrants have throughout history ALWAYS added to and benefited the society.
  • rammy121 posted:

    on 2nd January 2014, 12:55:38 - Reply

    @ping "If anyone still doesn't understand that this is the result of implicit racism during hiring processes, then you must be blind." . . . agreed...when i first came to the netherlands, for my first job, ten years ago, it was made clear to me "if i could find a dutchman to do your job, i'd employ them!!". however, when i worked for a NON dutch company (U.K.) the dutchies were put into line!! equality ruled..no sexist, racist jokes etc!! @elvis...you got a point (to a certain point)...they're not all how you described them...but they do exist. personally speaking, i wouldn't worry about any influx of foreigners coming to the netherlands. the ones that do come here will speak good english and as such, will no doubt be educated...sadly will never make it up the food chain unless they work for themselves or a foreign company/establishment. [Edited by moderator]
  • Ping posted:

    on 1st January 2014, 10:31:00 - Reply

    Volkskrant link to the research article, from dec 2013:

    http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/2680/Economie/article/detail/3567665/2013/12/27/Nauwelijks-allochtonen-in-de-top-van-BV-Nederland.dhtml

  • Ping posted:

    on 1st January 2014, 10:29:00 - Reply

    Just a few days ago, a big news paper published a research result
    ' 2 up to 10th generation migrants almost NON-existent in management levels in Dutch companies'. Read it again..non-existent (not under represented, but rather 'non-existent')

    They conclude that less than 1% of the working high skilled '10th' generation 'migrants' (they should be called Dutch by now!!) can be found in the management across companies in NL. That is also the case, when measured by taking only the pool of highly qualified migrants into account. This includes from chinese to english or any kind of migrants.

    If anyone still doesn't understand that this is the result of implicit racism during hiring processes, then you must be blind.
  • Woods posted:

    on 31st December 2013, 14:57:58 - Reply

    'Speak such ilk'? What does that mean?
  • mKadin posted:

    on 31st December 2013, 13:57:14 - Reply

    I am very concerned of the direction of those who speak such ilk.
  • Woods posted:

    on 31st December 2013, 13:13:36 - Reply

    Well Sarah, I've lived here for 40 years, and I have to say this is a phenomena I have never come across. Many of my Dutch friends have non-Dutch partners, and it's never been an issue. However, many ARE concerned about a possible influx of Romanians/Bulgarians, as are most of the other wealthy (relatively) EU countries (Germany, France, UK etc)
  • Sarah posted:

    on 31st December 2013, 09:43:58 - Reply

    I went on one of those Dutch language courses and all of the Eastern Europeans in the class were wives of Dutchmen.
    Perhaps the real issue here is that many Dutch don't approve of their own marrying non-Dutch.