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- DogsQUOTE (Karl Hungus @ Aug 28 2008, 03:09 PM) That's a judgement call that is very hard to make without having witnessed the incident. I already went into that in posts above.Now this might just turn into a debate about semantics. I called the other dog the aggressor in some posts because he was the dog that attacked, while ours did nothing that he doesn't do around other dogs all the time (or at least before all this happened, he behaves differently now, sadly), and which has never lead to incidents before. We're not "many people", and we weren't talking about what can happen when small dogs encounter bigger ones. We mentioned a specific incident in which our dog was involved. So I don't immediately understand if you're bringing hypothetical situations into the discussion just for conversation's sake or if you're meaning to say that we probably don't have a clue about dogs. Excuse me if I come off as harsh with this reply, but with the way this topic went on at first, I'm a little more defensive in my approach now.No problem with being defensive, I understand. I also mentioned how I disagreed with owners who know that their dogs can be aggressive to allow them off the leash. But initially I'd like to quote something in the very first post: My little dog doesn't like to socialize with other dogs so usually I pick her up and let my other dog play with his new found friends I don't know if you realise that by picking a small dog up when other dogs are around causes the dog to feel threatened, causing it to become more aggressive to other dogs. By picking the dog up it is being told that this is a dangerous situation therefore It needs to be aggressive, which could be the reason why he/she dislikes other dogs , 28/08/2008 11:06
- DogsQuote : The sniffing each other out happens all the time, but NEVER does it turn into one dog attacking the other in the way Chory got attacked that one day. If you think an unprovoked 'eating' of a smaller dog is normal behaviour for domesticated dogs, well, then I guess you're the real expert around here. But where I'm from, that usually never happens.If that was normal behaviour for the aggressor, then the owner shouldn't have let him off of his leash in an area with that many dogs around. If the aggressor doesn't like to be touched by other dog's leashes, then the owner, who saw us coming from a mile away, should have paid closer attention to his dog and not stay at least 10 feet away. If it was out of character for his dog to attack another dog, then there's obviously something wrong with your assesment that "nothing untoward happened at all." He went in for the kill, and I'm sorry, but walking those dogs multiple times a day and seeing many a dog on the way, I don't see dogs trying to murder each other just to establish pecking order. If it's so normal, why does it never happen?1. your dog did not get eaten and if the other dog had wanted to kill it I'm sure it certainly would have quite easily. 2. Aggressor... well were talking about pack behaviour, not aggressors which is where and why this has turned into an argument. Many people who own small dogs have no clue about dogs.Dogs do get hurt when walking and fights DO happen, usually due to owners not correctly training their dogs when dogs think they are the Alpha dog of the pack, meaning 'family pack' . I'm pretty sure these incidents have been mentioned on expatica in the pet section at times, one recently if I remember correctly. If a dog is well trained then it will 'listen ' to it's owner immediately. I can also understand how scary it must have been for your small dog, yet I have until recently had one large german shepherd and a small maltese and both do find their place in the pack amongst the humans and cats in the house. BUT, as long as the owner is in charge nothing can go wrong. It's quite an interesting discussion and sorry but didn't have time to read it all. But, since losing our shep I have felt very different when walking our small maltese since I never had any worries when being with the shep and the maltese together. Saying that, if any dog came to attack one of mine it would be me dealing with the dog that challenges. Saying that, I doubt my old shep would have allowed that? but wouldn't know since it never happened.I don't like small dogs much either even though I have the maltese, but explained already why I got her. But to be honest, I'd sooner have left a baby with my shep than a small dog since I know she'd protect and not get jealous, not so sure about the maltese? we shall soon see when she comes out of quarantine. I also don't agree with owners who know that their dogs are aggressive thinking it's funny to let their dogs run loose scaring crap out of everyone and any other dog passing, this simply shows what an idiot the owner is. But there is a big difference between an attack and pack order. I agree with wickerman on this one. Too many owners knowing too little about dogs. , 28/08/2008 02:48
- Good hairdresserEmma,I once travelled up to Amsterdam to have my hair done by an English hairdresser who was excelent, but I cannot remember her name.I had found a salon accross the border in Belgium which was good and if you don't mind a train journey I'd definately recommend ' De Client' in 'Antwerp'. You could make a day out of it and it was the best hairdressers I have ever been to. It's busy with loud music and you basically queue (no appointments made) but even on a busy Saturday I had to wait about 20 minutes. You are then sort of allocated a hairdresser depending on what you want done be it highlights or a cut and from what I saw all of the hairdressers in there were excellent. Adding to this the experience of going there with free trays of brut champagne and free coffee, bottles of cola e.c.t I thoroughly enjoyed myself and came out with my hair highlighted beautifully. Adding to this my husband was also offered drinks and could sit outside on their small terrace area in front of the shop. We expected to get a large bill as it was a special treat for me to go there, but my bill was just under 100 euros for full highlights (my hair is quite longish) and they put my own colour back in it saying that it was too blonde and just did 2 colours, so this was really cheap with no other charges for the drinks e.c.t, in the UK this would cost me 140 pounds for the highlights alone. If there is anything I miss about living on the Dutch Belgium border it will be the experience of going to that hairdressers http://www.declient.be/index2.html, 24/08/2008 08:19
- What's your opinion?QUOTE (the wickerman @ Aug 21 2008, 01:52 PM) Welcome back to the fore, LJ. I was intending to mail you today to make sure that you were okay, actually!I worked with an English guy last year. He had his own 'demons' to exorcise, after his mother committed suicide, but he told me about one of his friends stories ...When he was about 18 or 19, the friend, came 'out' and told the family that the recently-deceased grandfather had sexually abused him as a young boy. The ENTIRE family went crazy against him! "How dare you say that about your grandfather/my father/my uncle/my brother, blah, blah, blah!".Well, Sean told me he met his friend one evening slumped over a bar, in tears. The family had cast him out ...The following day his body was found in a cheap B&B, hanging from the ceiling with a note ... "Do you believe me NOW?"! I'm also a cast out as is my mother, I can understand how that poor guy felt. Thats what i mean about families protecting these types of people. After my fathers death I gave my grandma my dads walking stick to borrow since he used it every day and had done wood engravings of his/our lives on it, really beautiful, she knew it was to borrow to comfort her. After the death my sister asked if my aunt could return it and got a letter saying that the stick was not mentioned in the will and that my aunt has chosen to give it to the pedo who abused my son!I passed a message back through my sis to tell her, 'good idea, he may possibly need it sooner than he expects' Wickerman, brought meself a big 4 wheel drive and am driving all over the place. Thinking of popping to the seaside one weekend if the weathers nice, think I might go stick collecting So if you see any news hewadlines about pedo attacked with walking stick by granny you will know who did it LOL , 21/08/2008 03:11
- what is the mininum age of sexual contact in Holland?QUOTE (the wickerman @ Aug 11 2008, 02:00 PM) Wesley, I have no issues with age gaps (in the downward direction!). As long as there is a mental click and a similar level of immaturity, I'm happy. I dated a girl last year who was 16 years younger (she was 25) and we'd a great time, 'til we realised she was allergic to dog hairs! typical eh , 21/08/2008 03:01
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