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Ask our lawyer: Love is in the air 14/09/2006 00:00
Love is apparently in the air among the Expatica readership - suddenly everyone wants to come to Germany with their partners. Expatica's resident lawyer Csilla Ivanyi answers your legal questions.
Falling in love is the easy part - now try getting a German visa Dear Csilla Iványi I believe that I am about to be offered a job in Germany. As a British citizen, this would normally be very straightforward; however, I am currently living in Viet Nam with a Vietnamese wife, a baby on the way and two Doberman puppies. My question is therefore in a number of parts: In order for my wife to get a visa for Germany, she requires a Family Re-unification Visa (or similar wording). I understand that this takes 3 months from application to arrive. I have been invited to Germany to finalise the contract, and would like to take my wife with me so she can look around and ensure she will like it. I believe that we can get a Schengen visa for a short visit, but also understand that Schengen visas will not be issued while the Family Reunion Visa is being processed, nor can we get a Family re-union visa within 3 months of a Schengen visa expiry. Am I therefore right in thinking that the expiry date of the Schengen visa is upon leaving Germany for this short visit and not 90 days after visa issue? If my wife did not travel to Germany for the short visit, would it be possible to get the Family Reunion Visa quicker than 3 months? Once a family reunion visa is issued, how does my wife travel around other Schengen countries? Does that visa; in effect, work as a Schengen visa? If I have notarised injection certification for rabies, what are the rules for getting our dogs into Germany? Are any other notarised injections required? Thank you for your assistance in this matter.
Andrew writes: 
Dear Andrew,
A Schengen visa can be issued for any time up to 90 days, mostly it's shorter. The time starts running from the day of your/your wife's entry and ends with her leaving the Schengen region.
Once it's issued, the German authorities are not willing to work on a long-time residence permit in parallel (which would be for instance the family-reunification-visa), so you lose valuable time.
But what about getting a Schengen visa at another embassy? Then it wouldn't be a problem to apply for the German visa at the same time. This procedure in fact takes a long time, because the local authorities have to give their consent to your wife's moving in. And mailing the documents back and forth alone can take several weeks.
You also ask for the effects of the residence permit - yes, it enables your wife to travel within the whole Schengen region.
As to the dogs: in addition to the rabies injection you need to prove treatment against tapeworm not older than two days before travelling. I don't know of any other general rule regarding import of dogs, but maybe there are special requirements regarding Vietnamese animals - maybe you should ask the people from the Embassy for such rules.
Best regards,
Csilla Iványi
attorney-at-law
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An Expatica reader writes:
I am a UK citizen and am planning to marry my Japanese girlfriend in Scotland. My question is, once we're married, can we just roll immediately into Germany automatically together and take the usual steps once we get here to regularize her status (get residence permit, etc)? It's complicated by the fact that my girlfriend (who is currently in Japan getting a UK marriage visitor visa together) overstayed here by a few days on a tourist visa last year by mistake and is currently awaiting the outcome of a judgement from the German authorities -- a judgement they initially promised at the end of last year would come within a couple of months, but which is still not forthcoming (and looks as if it's been lost in a mire of bureaucracy).
She has no trouble getting into the UK, but Schengen border controls will see a black mark of some kind on her record due to last year's overstay. Will this become irrelevant once she's married to me?
Any advice on this would be welcome.
Dear reader,
As EU citizen you and your non-EU-spouse (and also your kids ) reap the benefits of a very generous body of regulations regarding residency and work in countries belonging to the EU. So once you're married it won't be any problem to visit or move to Germany.
Another question is the judgement regarding your wife's infringement of the tourist visa. If she got a judgement by court - in a criminal procedure - it's no problem at all, then she just has to pay the fine or whatever penalty she got. But if it's an "Ausweisung" (eviction order) by the authorities dealing with residence permits of foreigners (Auslaenderbehoerde) she has to clarify that beforehand, because she must not enter Germany before it's deleted in the registry.
So please approach the authorities after your marriage to find out what measures they took and also file an objection, if they issue such an order. The fact that she has a husband who is an EU citizen changes her rights considerably.
Best regards,
Csilla Iványi
attorney-at-law
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Carrie writes:I am so confused and would like a straight answer on exactly what I have to do to stay in Germany for more than 90 days. I am planning to live with my German boyfriend until he is done serving in the German Armed Forces and I know that as a Canadian citizen I can apply for my visa in Germany. He is able to support me until I learn the language and find employment.
Is it possible for me to obtain a visa if I don't have a job? He was told that even if he provides proof that he is able to support me financially that if I don't find employment, my odds of obtaining a visa to stay in Germany with him are not good. I'm worried that I am giving up everything here to go there and find that I cannot stay. Please help!
Dear Carrie,
Unfortunately it's not easy to just move over to Germany in order to work there.
Actually, it's almost impossible unless you
- are highly qualified with a job offer,
- are studying,
- have a German spouse or German kids,
- establish your own enterprise here (in the latter case you would have to present a convincing business plan).
Therefore I would recommend that you marry your boyfriend as quickly as possible.
Regards,
Csilla Iványi
attorney-at-law
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Erna writes:
I am Canadian citizen living and working in Canada currently. I am looking to move to Germany. I have a family that I plan to stay with for the first couple of months. What I would like to know is how can I stay permanently? Is there an opportunity to work if employment is found or is there a status I can apply for in Germany that will allow me to stay and work? And also is it possible to have both Canadian and German citizenship or can I only have one?
Please let me know how this is possible or where can I turn to in order to get more information on this, phone numbers, websites...
Thanks in advance.
Dear Erna,
Unfortunately German immigration law is very restrictive even with regard to Canadian citizens. They are welcome as tourists, but it's difficult to get permanent residence and work permits.
If you're young enough and speak German well you could study here, and as a student you're allowed to work three months per year. You could also stay as an au pair. But if you want to find a regular employment and apply for a residence permit on the basis of such an offer, you will only be successful if you have extremely high qualifications and can show a job offer with a salary higher than average.
Another possibility would be to open your own company, but be aware that business plans are being checked thoroughly. I was successful many times in such cases, but this course of action should be well-prepared indeed.
Best regards,
Csilla Iványi
attorney-at-law
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Arun writes:
I am an Indian national living in the UK and engaged to a German national. When we got our document for state wedding, we were told to get a certificate of marriagability. As I live in the UK I can't get it from India. Is it all right to get a affidavit from my father pledging that I am his son and I am not married and that I am medically fit for marriage?
Many thanks.
Dear Arun,
This certificate of "marriagablity" is issued when the German authorities have checked all Indian documents regarding your identity, bachelorhood, family relations etc.
What exactly it is that you need depends on your origin, nationality, and special individual circumstances. So please ask your girlfriend to contact a German "Standesamt" - which is the marriage registry - to get to know what you need to prepare.
These documents are then legalised in a lengthy procedure by the German embassy in India, which means that people from the embassy go to the local Indian authorities and ask whether they really issued the documents. Only then will you get this certificate of marriagability.
Best regards,
Csilla Iványi
attorney-at-law
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Amy writes:
I know you get these kinda (sic) questions a lot. I am a US citizen and my boyfriend is German. I am moving there at the end of November. I don't want to get married right away but from the sound of it i might have to to be able to stay there. I am very nervous about moving there to live with him because though he has a place for me to stay and lots of support from his family I have heard horror stories about people trying to move there and can't get a job or getting kicked back out.
What should I do, do I only have three months and if we aren't married in that time I will have to leave? Just trying to find out what I should do, what kinda paperwork I should already have with me and all that kinda thing. Thank you very much.
Dear Amy,
You may enter Germany without doing much paperwork, since you are entitled to apply for residency here in Germany. But without marrying your German boyfriend you won't be able to stay here legally more than 3 months, in fact. You aren't allowed to work either. So I would not recommend that you leave everything behind in the US--first you should determine whether you want to marry or not!
Best regards,
Csilla Iványi
attorney-at-law
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13 September 2006
Send a question to Csilla Iványi at germany@expatica.com. Please make sure to give all the necessary information about your particular situation.
This article contains information of a general nature and should not be considered as legal advice.
Although the greatest care has been taken in drafting this article, it is possible that certain information may have become outdated or inaccurate since its publication.
Copyright Expatica 2006
Subject: Life in Germany, legal advice, ask our lawyer, getting married in Germany, moving to Germany, marrying a German, German law, German legal advice, how to move to Germany
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